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chethanne (Ratakaberu)
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:46 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, i've germinated peganum harmala seeds (10 of em in a 8x8 cm2 pot with horticultur soil+sand). They germinated nicely as i kept the soil really moist but it seems that when they are about 3 cm high they die (looks like suffocation) though the soil is moderatly humid, they are exposed to morning sun, the temps are quit hot where i live (average 22°)....
Any urgent help would be really nice since i'm really sad seeing them die right after germination....
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 12:45 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this is extremely common when anyone tries to grow rue.
i don't know any success stories other than outside in their native habitat, they need a very specific micro-climate and no one's quite sure exactly what is needed, we just know they do it outside in the right spots.
i'll dig around and see if i can find more info.
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Natura (Natura)
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:40 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah seems the root is not realy resistent for bacteria in normal most soil. Possibly needs to grow in fine sand and good nitrogen fixer.
I remember some good note at shaman-australis site ???

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Natura (Natura)
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 06:55 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

here we go; http://www.shaman-australis.com/


Botanical information
Bushy, herbaceous perennial with short creeping roots, to 0.8 m tall. Stems stiff, erect, highly branched, angled above, glabrous. Leaves alternate, fleshy, bright green, 2-5 cm long, irregularly divided 3 times or more into linear segments. Stipules bristle-like. Taproot branched, with stout, short-creeping lateral roots usually greater than 15 cm deep. New shoots can develop from lateral roots. Flowers white, ~ 2.5 cm in diameter and solitary on stalks 2-5 cm long or more in the leaf axils. Sepals 5, linear, ~ 1.5 cm long. Petals 5, oblong, ~ 1.5 cm long. Flowers late spring-early fall. Capsules spherical, leathery, 7-15 mm in diameter, orange-brown at maturity, 3-chambered, and opening by 3 valves at the apex to release numerous dark brown to black angular seeds, 3-4 mm long. Above ground parts die back in winter.
Native to Asia and Syria, but now naturalised and/or weedy in many countries, including arid areas of Australia.

Sow seed 5-10mm deep into slightly moist, very well-drained seeding mix or sand. Germination is greatly assisted by applying bottom heat or by sowing in midsummer. High humidity may cause seedlings to rot, limiting the usefulness of propagation domes. Should germinate in a few days, but may take a few weeks. Plants do not like to transplanted, but if this is desired, cut back 80% of the plant top before transplanting and water root system in well. This is an arid zone plant and will need to be protected from excessive rain in high rainfall areas.

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I've heard some people got success in hydro methods.

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Leprachaun (Leprachaun)
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 08:03 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As far as I remember, Syrian Rue is very vulnerable to a fungal disease called "Damping Off". This causes the seedlings to fall over and die. They can be protected to some degree by spraying them with a solution of copper fungicide.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:05 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

archive material
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chethanne (Ratakaberu)
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 01:16 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok ok, i'm gonna try drying the soil,
less watering and fungicide.
Thanks for helping me keeping my new little friends alive!
I'll keep u updated
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myco domesticus (Mycophil)
Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 01:20 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

for what it's worth...
here are the growing instructions for peganum harmala coming from 'of the jungle' now called the botanical preservation corps , it is a booklet titled :'cultivation details for exotic plants

pamphlet
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jim dillows (Jimdillows)
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 03:08 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is typically a desert habitat plant. Take that as a hint to possible climate hint.

I haven't heard of anyone getting one to live outside of it's native habitat without having a naturalized cutting shipped to them.

Good luck
JD

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